Amerant Bancorp Inc. (NASDAQ:AMTB) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Unidentified Analyst: Hey, good morning, everyone. I guess I’d love to kind of touch on credit if we could and kind of maybe if you could give a view for how you think credit costs could kind of stabilize from here and what you would kind of say to investor to investors to give them some confidence around that. Then obviously, choppy for the last four quarters and maybe specifically the pace of charge offs you might expect from the Consumer Direct portfolio at this point?

Jerry Plush: Yeah, I think, let me go in backwards. We expect that to improve indirect consumer charge offs on a go forward basis. I think Sherry made a comment, that portfolio the expectation duration wise, you know, it’s getting smaller and smaller every quarter and you know, maximum two years out before it’s completely run off; so that would be the view. Yes, that will improve as we move forward. We think we saw an acceleration and now it’s, it’s coming to the right direction for us. You know, we’ve had a couple million dollars’ worth of charges that related, you know, from small business, you know, our view is, you know, that’s been a business we’ve really tightened our credit criteria. It’s not actually something we’ve done is anywhere near the emphasis that had been done in the past.

And you know, the expectation is there the summit, we’re going to continue to closely monitor but the big thing has been these, you know, of you just saying in the last several quarters, there have been a bunch of legacy credit. Yes, there was one that was a South Florida credit in the first quarter, no question, but there have been a bunch of these legacy credit. And it’s one of the reasons why we stepped up and accelerated you know, made the decision to take the haircut on selling this New York Creek property. It was the single largest exposure left in the portfolio. Frankly, it’s one of the largest single exposures we had in the entire portfolio. And our view was better to take that haircut now and get that off the books. And as you can see, we’ve reduced our exposure down to 20 to 40 million as a result of that sale and the view is we’ve got a good line of sight into performance on the rest of that portfolio.

So all that being said, you know, look at the crystal ball you have with this, we think our teams are doing a really good job of staying on top of relationships you know, following through with know your customer, you know, because there’ll be an unexpected, of course, but the view right now is we think we’ve done a really good job of looking certainly at the largest ones which have created the most noise. But again, you know, that’s there’s been a lot unfortunately, we have had some significant events. Around that year, create portfolio and, you know, that’s no surprise and I think we we’ve, you know, played even more and more attention on that one.

Unidentified Analyst: Yes, that makes sense. And so I guess, it may sound like you feel like maybe you’re past the lion’s share the immediate risks. I mean, obviously, like you said, we don’t have a crystal ball. We don’t know what’s coming next year, but I mean, 60 some basis points in that charge up so far this year 32 basis points [ph]. Last year, if you had to pick a number for 2024, kind of somewhere in the middle, or I mean, I guess how do we think about the ability for that the normal estimate?

Jerry Plush: Yeah, look, our expectation again, these have been the lumpy credits; the ones that we had the most will say placed the most time and energy to watch and had concerned with. You’ve now seen come through right. And if you look at what’s in MPLS and NPAs, in the in the real estate on portfolio, the two largest pieces of that are based off in New York. And so the view Yeah, I mean, to the extent we can continue to see paid ads in New York, we continue to see, you know, closely monitor that portfolio, I think the lumpiness that’s created those charges, will come down pretty significantly, probably to the levels that you talked about 13.3% range.

Sharymar Calderon: And Jerry I’d like to add a little bit more color off late [ph]. If we look at the charge-off compensation for the quarter, and reduction of eight basis points of the coverage of the reserve is related to charge-offs previously reserved; so that takes the new charge of closer to 30% [ph]. And when we look into that competition itself, and we specifically look into the indirect portfolio, we are seeing the behaviour of a reduction of charges starting to take place this quarter, a little bit later within the quarter than what we were expecting but definitely behaviour showing improvement.

Unidentified Analyst: Got it. Helpful in many minutes and the deposit side, generally known as international deposit growth, the focus you have for a bit now but eBooks been relatively flat what kind of changes course there what would allow you to grow it and any CD maturity coming on that will help on the deposit side at all.

Jerry Plush: Yeah, look, I think the team you know, it’s taken us a couple quarters to get the synergy to grow to sort of get our footing and refocusing on this. Remember, we had prior to this year, it really been in maintenance mode there, you know, combination of stabilizing it, you know, back, you know, two years ago to you know, coming through the other side of COVID so travel is just resumed. We want to be very cautious and make sure that what we are growing we have very good KYC, BSA-AML [ph] in place. And so I think we’ve been gaining more and more confidence there. Have to remember that the bulk of that portfolio is customers are using those accounts. So, really the net growth we need to get for this to grow was exactly your question; which is we have to book more new business and our expectation is that is in the process of ramping up. And Steven I apologize and think your second question was around CD maturities in the quarter?

Unidentified Analyst: Yeah, just curious if there was any anything coming that would allow some of the funding cost pressure to abate at all? Not that CD costs are going down yet but just kind of wondering if there’s [indiscernible].

Jerry Plush: I was going to say, you know, I think what Sherry’s remarks were, is that we look at the Delta what is maturing as to be much closer, right? So these were fairly higher cost maturities this fourth quarter. So even if we did a retention, we didn’t expect significant incremental expense as a result of that.

Unidentified Analyst: Okay, that’s very helpful. And then maybe just last thing for me. Sounds like growth is picking back up already this quarter. You can the pipeline’s are strong. I know. For most of the banks, we look at growth, it’s kind of getting pulled back and people seem a bit more cautious. What kind of gave you confidence in the growth you guys are putting on is it new market expansion primarily. That gives you that confidence or can you speak to that a little bit?