Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc. (NYSE:TMO) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

When I think about phasing for the year and all of all of that stuff, we look forward to doing that in beginning of 2024.

Stephen Williamson: Yeah. But, Rachel, that kind of set up what I put in the prepared remarks, is kind of a mirror image of this year as a starting point, kind of more challenging in the first half and then modest growth in the second half. Thanks, Rachel.

Rachel Vatnsdal: Great. And then if I could squeeze one more just on instrumentation. That was a great spot this quarter at 8% growth. You’ve noted that you’re over-indexed to instrumentation in China, and you’ve also highlighted some of the incremental weakness there. So can you just walk us through what exactly you’re seeing in that portfolio? What was instrument growth in China versus rest of world? And then how should we think about that setup for instrumentation next year given you’re going to face some of these difficult comps in the first three quarters?

Marc Casper: So I’ll probably keep it at a pretty high level. Awesome quarter in Analytical Instruments, 8% growth. Team is doing a good job. Our electron microscopy business, really performing extremely well. And great to see the uptake on Astral, which is our breakthrough mass spectrometer, which we launched in June. So those are the highlights. Our guidance for this year and our framing for next year reflects the customer caution and the non-repeat of some of the — working through the disruptions of the pandemic on supply chain. So that’s embedded in the outlook for the year.

Stephen Williamson: And then Rachel, just on the kind of the additional kind of weakness we saw in China in Q3, some of that came through in revenue in Q3, but it’s going to be more in terms of revenue in Q4 because of a lag in terms of bookings profile for an instrumentation business. So that’s part of that dynamic of why Q4 is more impacted by the change profile that we saw in China.

Rafael Tejada: Thanks, Rachel.

Operator: Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Puneet Souda from Leerink Partners. Puneet, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Puneet Souda: Yeah. Thanks, Marc, Stephen. Thanks for taking the questions. I’ll wrap two of my questions into one. First, largely on M&A. Given the environment right now, the type of deals that you’re doing, the type of valuations you’re doing at, could you maybe just give us a sense of what you’re seeing out there? Obviously, Olink, prior to that Binding Site and CorEvitas. Is that the type of sort of midsized deals that we should continue to expect here and the opportunity base that you are seeing in M&A? And within the proteomics franchise, now with successful Orbitrap franchise of last 15-plus years, combining that with Olink, Marc, maybe at a high level, could you provide us your, not for lack of better word, vision on proteomics despite being a sort of a tough market this year and next year?

Marc Casper: Yeah. So Puneet, thanks for the question. And, so when I think about the M&A for this year or M&A even in general, the criteria that we use, right, is M&A that’s going to be highly valued by our customers, strengthen our strategic position, generate strong returns for our shareholders. And you look at what the different opportunities are and you think about it in different periods of time where it’s going to skew in your favor. And this year, with a more volatile macro, we’ve been able to add three phenomenal businesses, right, in terms of strengthening the company with incredible growth prospects, really good return profiles. So that doesn’t mean that next year will look exactly like this or years where you can buy companies that are really more of a balance of cost and revenue growth in those different things and different aspects of it.

But this year, to be able to get the Binding Site, CorEvitas and Olink, it’s fantastic. And when I think about Olink, which, this is our first opportunity given that we had announced it during a blackout period, it’s just a terrific fit, right, and you think about it’s a leader in a business that has gone through that phase of being well adopted, right? So the technology risk isn’t here anymore. But it hasn’t globally commercialized. It hasn’t reached nearly its full potential and incredibly complementary to our leading position in mass spectrometry and proteomics. And Puneet, thanks for reminding others about our 15-year plus track record with Orbitrap. Astral being the next big many year run and the combination there, plus Olink, and the fact that we have a leading position in the life sciences instrumentation, which are very relevant in terms of qPCR for these products as well.

Really exciting. They are a leader in their field and we’re excited to help bring that to the customer base in an accelerated fashion. And when we look to the future, we expect this to be a long-term, mid-teens-plus growth business and be able to generate really significant adjusted operating income synergies driven by that accelerated revenue growth, right? And on top of that, just $125 million of earnings that come from the year five synergies, and that’s going to generate double-digit returns for the shareholders. So super exciting time, and we’ll continue to be outstanding stewards of our shareholders’ capital.

Puneet Souda: Great. Thank you.

Marc Casper: Thanks.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Eve Burstein from Bernstein. Eve, your line is now open. Please proceed.

Eve Burstein: Hi, there. Good morning, and thanks a lot for the question. I’d love to ask about your lab products and biopharma services business unit. So the operating margin there was up right at 16%. It was higher than any point in the past. And when you talk about the puts and takes there, you called out productivity and mix as some of the positive drivers. So just two questions there. One, on mix, if that was a positive driver, does that actually mean that sales of some of your really low margin consumables were down? Other peer companies have talked about challenges there and brought down guidance in general lab products. So can you talk a little bit about those dynamics? And then secondly, on productivity gains, what is driving that? And are those going to be sustainable and recurring over time?

Stephen Williamson: So, it’s Steve. Thanks for the question. So when I think about the margin dynamic in that segment, yeah, mix is — when you think about where the more challenging environment is in terms of customer caution and China, that impacts the lab products business and then the wider customer caution also impacts our channel business, so relative to the other business in that segment, where the mix profile comes from. In terms of productivity, it’s about — we’ve been rightsizing the cost base within our lab products business and given the volume change. So that’s where the majority of that is. And then just good spending wisely across the whole business, but those are probably the two main factors to call out. Thanks, Eve.

Eve Burstein: Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator: Thank you.

Rafael Tejada: Operator, we have time for one more question.

Operator: Perfect. We will take our last question today from Dan Leonard from [UBS] (ph). Dan, your line is now open. Please go ahead.