MKS Instruments, Inc. (NASDAQ:MKSI) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Steve Barger: Thanks. John, I think we all understand this has been a really challenging cycle, but the stock is obviously acting like there are bigger risks and problems here. So can you just discuss again why you’re confident MKS is better with ATC in the portfolio and maybe further discuss just how you see this playing out in coming quarters and years?

John Lee: Yes. Steve, thanks for the question. So, we’ve talked about advanced packaging and we’ve talked about how critical that’s going to be to enable the next generation of electronics. So as I said in our prepared remarks, it’s no longer that just a semiconductor will enable advanced electronics. I think everybody’s talking about chiplet packaging or systems packaging if we are going to continue as an industry pushing the concept, the economic concept of Moore’s Law. So we love having Atotech as part of our portfolio. There’s no other company that has market leadership in packaging, chemistry and the equipment that’s Atotech as well as market leadership in the broad set of technologies in semiconductor critical subsystems, as we’ve talked about in the past, that enables dep and etch as well as lithography, metrology and inspection. So we firmly believe that the combination of both really sets up MKS uniquely for the future.

Steve Barger: And can you just talk about what the feedback has been from customers as you go out and maybe how you see the CapEx cycle next year and what you think that can translate into for MK?

John Lee: Well, customers are certainly very receptive to the concept of MKS bringing more solutions to them that include lasers as well as chemistry equipment and then other types of packaging solutions. In terms of CapEx, I think that’s similar to Joe’s question. It’s going to be something that seems a bit muted for packaging though. I think next year if things stabilize, the compares will be good, but your guess is as good as mine as to how much it comes back. But I would also comment that the packaging market for us is less cyclical. There are cycles for sure, but the amplitude is much less than semi CapEx as you’ve seen in our numbers.

Steve Barger: Got it. And Seth, can I squeeze in a quick one? Sorry if I missed it. Did you talk about free cash flow in 4Q, and can we expect incremental debt pay down in the remainder of this year?

Seth Bagshaw: Yes, we didn’t disclose or give guidance on free cash flow in Q4. You saw Q3 was quite strong. By the way, Steve, is it certainly that’s our goal going forward to drive that free cash flow up. So it’ll depend on working capital needs. But so we didn’t really give that type of guidance in the fourth quarter. In terms of debt pay down, we have done a lot of pulling of levers, as you saw in prepared remarks. We did $100 million in October, and our players do lever aggressively going forward now, and roll out as the year progresses. Did the repricing that took $11 million off the table. So that’s, again a level we pulled with Atotech we’ve driven the tax rate down long term as well. That’s a big value driver.

And then the cost synergies is $45 million to $55 million one year in. So things we can control as in prepared remarks. We’ve actually done a lot already in a short period of time. There’s more opportunity going forward as well. And that’ll roll out, there’s no change in our philosophy to delever drive free cash flow, drive the integration activities, which gone very well.

Steve Barger: Appreciate the time. Thanks.

Seth Bagshaw: Yep. Thanks, Steve.

Operator: One moment for our next question. And the next question comes from James Ricchiuti at Needham & Company. Your line is open.

James Ricchiuti: Thank you. I wanted to focus on the photonics solutions portion of the semi business, which appears to be holding up better. And, John, maybe you could talk to what your visibility, your line of sight in that area of the business? Are you any more optimistic that that portion of the business is able to hold up in this cyclical downturn?