TransDigm Group Incorporated (TDG)’s Q1 2015 Earnings Conference Call Transcript

Below is transcript of the TransDigm Group Incorporated (NYSE:TDG)’s First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call, held on January 27, 2015, at 11:00 a.m. EST. Stockbridge Partners, Pennant Capital Management and Tiger Global Management Llc was among TransDigm Group Incorporated (NYSE:TDGshareholders at the end of the previous quarter.

TransDigm Group Incorporated (NYSE:TDG)

TransDigm Group Incorporated (NYSE:TDGis a designer, producer and supplier of engineered aircraft components. The Components are used in commercial and military aircraft service. The Company operates in three segments: Power & Control, Airframe and Non-aviation. The Power & Control segment includes operations that develop, produce and market systems and components that provide power to or control power of the aircraft utilizing electronic, fluid, power and mechanical motion control technologies.

Company Representatives:

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

Liza Sabol – Manager of Investor Relations

Analysts:

Robert Stallard – Royal Bank of Canada

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Gautam Khanna – Cowen

Robert Spingarn – Credit Suisse

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Joseph Nadol – JP Morgan.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the quarter one 2014 TransDigm Group Incorporated earnings conference call. My name is Sally and I will be your operator for today. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of the conference. . With the any quree for the call please press *0 the operator will be happy to assist you. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Liza Sabol from Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Liza Sabol – Manager of Investor Relations

Thank you. I would like to thank you all that have called in today and welcome you to TransDigm’s fiscal 2015 first quarter earnings conference call. With me on the call this morning are TransDigm’s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Howley, Chief Operating Officers, Robert S. Henderson and Kevin Stein and our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Greg Rufus. A replay of today’s broadcast will be available for the next two weeks. Replay information is contained in this morning’s press release and on our website at transdigm.com.

Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that the statements made during this call which are not historical in fact, are forward looking statements. For further information about important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward looking statements please refer to the company’s latest filings with the SEC. These filings are available through the investors section of our website or at sec.gov. The company would also like to advise you that during the course of the call we will be referring to EBITA, specifically EBITA is defined as adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share all of which are non gap financial measures. Please see the tables and related footnotes in the earnings release for a presentation of the most directly comparable gap measures and a reconciliation of EBITA and EBITA as defined as adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share to those measures.

With that let me now turn the call over to Nick.

Nick Howley– Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning and thanks again to everyone for calling. As usual, today I will first review our consistent business strategy then I will go through our financial performance & some market summary for Q1 2015 & then just a few comments on our guidance for the full year.

To restate we believe our business model is unique in the industryboth in its consistency & its ability to sustain & create[ inaudible] shareholder value through all phases of the cycle. To summarize a few of the reasons why we believe this about 90% of our net sales are generated by propriatary engineer products and around 3 quarters of our net sales come from products for which we believe we are the sole source provider. Over half of our revenues and a much higher percent of our EBITA come from aftermarket sales. Aftermarket revenues have historically produced a higher gross margin & have provided relative stability through the downturns. Because of our uniquely high EBITA margins & relatively low capital expenditures, TransDigm has year in year out generated very strong free cash flow. This gives us a lot of operating and capital structure flexibility. We follow a very consistent long term strategy.

First we own & operate proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content.

Second we have a simple well-proven, value-based operating strategy focused around our three value driver concept.

Third we maintain a decentralized organization structure & a unique compensation system with executives & senior management who think, act & are paid like owners.

Fourth we acquire proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content where we see a clear path to PE. Lastly we view our capital structure & capital allocation as another means to create shareholder value.

We basically have four alternatives for capital allocations. Our priorities are typically as follows. First invest in our existing businesses, second make accretive acquisitions consistent with our strategy, these two are almost always our first choices, third give the extra back to shareholders either through a special dividend or stock buyback and fourth pay off debt though given the low cost of the debt especially after tax. This is likely our last choice, particularly in current capital market conditions. With respect to financial capacity we have a little over $1 billion of cash roughly $ 400 million in unrestricted undrawn revolver & additional capacity under our credit agreement. We ended the quarter with a net leverage of 5.9 times EIBTA well below our credit agreement limit. At 12/27/14 or the end of the quarter based on current capital market conditions, we believe we have adequate capacity to make over $2 billion of acquisitions without issuing additional equity.

This capacity grows as the year proceeds. This does not imply anything about acquisition opportunities or anticipated acquisition levels for 2015. We did not purchase any additional shares in Q1. Now turning to our Q1 2015 performance. Remind u this is the first quarter of our fiscal year 2015. Our year started October 1. Q1 was relatively quiet. As I have said in the past quarterly comparisons can be significantly impacted by difference in the OEM aftermarket mix, large orders, inventory fluctuations, modest seasonality and other factors. But in any event total Gap revenues were up about 11% versus the prior Q1. Organic revenues were up about 3% on a first quarter versus prior year first quarter basis. Fiscal year 2015 Q1 revenues were right in line with our expectations of roughly similar percent relationship as 2014 i.e about 23% of actual full year revenues. I would remind everyone there are less shipping days in Q1 than any other quarter.

Now, reviewing the revenues by market category on a proforma basis versus the prior year Q1. By proforma I mean if we own the same mix of businesses in both periods. In the commercial markets which make up about 70% of our revenue, total commercial OEM revenues were up 6% versus the prior Q1. This is primarily driven by commercial transport OEM revenues though a modest part of our business. Our [Inaudible] OEM revenues were up about 11% year over year a bit higher than we have seen. I think this is just mostly timing. After a red hot last six months of fiscal year 2014, total commercial aftermarket revenue growth slowed down some in Q1 of 2015. On a Q1 versus prior year Q1 basis revenues were up 5% after year over year increases of around 16% in the second half of 2014. The revenue growth in Q1 versus the prior year was reduced about 1.5% to 2% by some distribution inventory movements. We could see a little more of this. Bookings for the quarter were modestly ahead of shipments in the commercial aftermarket.

The defense markets which make up about 30% of our revenues. Defense revenues were up 2% versus the prior year first quarter. The revenues were spotty by operating unit with no clear trends. First quarter defense bookings were up 23% versus the prior year Q1 & ran well ahead of revenues. The primary contributors were two large airborne specialty parashoot orders. As always we remain somewhat about trends in the military market. All-in-all, we had no substantive variation from our revenue expectations for Q1. Now moving on to profitability and on a reported basis again I am going to talk primarily about our operating performance or EBITA as defined.

The defined adjustments in Q1 were quite modest made up of non cash compensation expense & some acquisition costs. Our EBITA as Defined of about $270 million for Q1 was up 11% versus the prior Q1. EBITDA as define margins were about 46%. The Q1 margins without [Inaudible] from the impact of two acquisitions purchased in 2014 i.e airborne and EME holding was approximately 48% or up 2% versus Q1 of 2014 for the same mix of business. With respect to acquisitions we continue actively looking at opportunities. The pipeline of possibilities is active with a fairly broad range of deal sizes. The closings have been slow, we have seen reasonable amount of activity recently but closings are always difficult to predict. We remain disciplined and focused on value creation opportunities that meet our tight criteria.

Now moving on to the 2015 guidance based on our current view of the markets we are not changing our full year guidance. We believe there could be some organic upside in the EBITA. we prefer to see a little more market strength before we make an adjustment, as usual our guidance does not include any new acquisitions. To confirm the original market growth assumptions for year over year growth, commercial aftermarket, high single digit percents, commercial OEM, mid [Inaudible] defense about flat. In total with some puts and takes, our markets look about as we anticipated three months ago. As usual we will look at this again next quarter and update it if we see any changes & with that I will hand it over to Greg.

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

Okay. Thanks Nick. Good morning. As we have said in the past & just to remind you again all of my comments are on a gap reported basis where Nick’s comments were mostly on a proforma basis. Sometimes we do have minor differences in our explanations. As disclosed in this morning’s press release our first quarter sales were $587 million & 11% greater than the prior year. Our organic sales were 3% higher than last year driven by growth in commercial aftermarket & commercial OEM offset with a modest decline in gap defense sales. Our first quarter gross profit was $321 million an increase of 13% over the prior year. The reported gross profit margin of 54.7% was one margin point higher than the prior year. A decrease in non-operating acquisition related cost versus the prior year contributed to the higher reported gross margin. Margins in the current quarter were also negatively impacted by approximately two margin points due to acquisition mix from airborne & EME. In other words excluding all acquisition activity our gross profit margin in the remaining business versus the prior year quarter improved approximately two margin points. The base businesses continued to expand margins as a result of the strength of our proprietary products & continually improving our cost structure. Selling & administrative expenses were 11.5% of sales for the current quarter compared to 10.8% in the prior year.

The current quarter was running a little higher than the prior period primarily due to higher run rate as a percent of sales from our recent acquisitions. Interest expense was $99 million an increase of approximately $18 million or 23% versus the prior-year quarter. This is a result of an increase in the weighted average total debt to $7.5 billion in the current quarter versus $5.7 million in the prior year. The higher average debt year over year was primarily due to the amount borrowed to fund the $25 per share special dividend paid in Q3 of last year also in conjunction with the dividend we refinanced $1.6 billion of existing notes at a lower interest rate. This refinancing helped lower our weighted average cash interest rate to 5.1% compared to 5.4% to the prior year. Our effective tax rate was 32.6% in the current quarter compared to 33.6% in the prior year.

The lower effective tax rate in the quarter was primarily due to the retroactive [Inaudible] of the R&D tax credit. We still expect our effective tax rate for the full fiscal year to be around 33% & our cash taxes to be approximately $180 million. Our net income for the quarter increased $9.4 million or 11% to $95.5 million which is 16% of sales. This compares to net income of $86.1 million in the prior year. The increase in net income primarily reflects the increase in net sales, the decrease in acquisition related costs & [Inaudible] expense and a lower effective tax rate. These items were offset with the higher interest expense just discussed.

Gap earnings per share was $1.63 per share in the current quarter compared to a $1.44 per share last year. The current earnings per share growth of 13% is higher than net income growth due to lower weighted average shares outstanding resulting from repurchasing over 900,000 shares last year & slightly lower dividend equivalent payments made in the current year versus last year. Our adjusted earnings pershare was $1.80 per share an increase of 8% compared to $1.66 per share last year. Please reference Table 3 in this morning’s press release which compares and reconciles gap to adjusted EVS. Switching gears to cash & liquidity.

We ended the quarter with over $1 billion of cash on the balance sheet. The company’s net debt leverage ratio was 5.9 times our proforma EBITA as in gross leverage was 6.8 times pro forma EBITA. We still expect to generate $475 million of cash in the current year & expect our September 30/ 2015 year end net leverage to be in the 5.2 times EBITA or [Inaudible] approximately one full turn on a net basis.

Before I hand it over to Liza to kick off the Q&A session, I would like to inform you that we will be filing our Q this upcoming Friday.

Liza Sabol – Manager of Investor Relations

Thank you Greg. Operator, we are now ready to open the line.

Operator

The first question comes from the line of Robert Stallard from the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead Robert.

Robert Stallard – Royal Bank of Canada

Thanks very much. Good morning.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Hi Rob.

Robert Stallard – Royal Bank of Canada

Nick I was wondering if we could kickoff with your folks on the debt market here whether you are seeing any opportunities to raise debt at more attractive rates than what you have seen in recent history & then also your follow on from that your thoughts on deploying that as a special dividend?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Yes, the debt market first. I think you know the recent history the last round of financing we raised what was that 9 months ago or something? Yes. I mean that was pretty [Inaudible] attractive rates. I think those particularly the bonds are selling actually at just a [Inaudible] which would tell me that the rates are very very close to what they are now. That market got a little bumpy but I think it’s reasonably stable now. So I think if we went out today we could raise money today, I don’t know what tomorrow would be but I think if we went out today we could probably raise money at very comparable rates to what we did six or nine months ago. Let me just assume that we had roughly the same leverage levels. As far as capital deployment I think we will address that as the year proceeds, we have a fair amount of acquisition, I would say activity we are working on & we probably will let them play out a little bit before we make a decision on capital allocation.

Robert Stallard – Royal Bank of Canada

Great & then as a follow up you mentioned about some issues in the distribution channel in the aerospace aftermarket, I was wondering if u could elaborate on what you think might be going on there?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I think they probably got a little held in terms of the ordering at the end of last year. You know that we ran 15% & 18%. We also moved a few distributors around which might have influenced it a little bit. I don’t take a whole lot from that. I just thought it was worthwhile data point to let people know.

Robert Stallard – Royal Bank of Canada

Okay. That’s great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna from Cowen. Go ahead.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

Yes. Thank you. Good morning.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

I just wanted to ask if you could elaborate on the defense bookings comment. You mentioned the two parachute orders & what was the trend if you [Inaudible]. Was it a book bill of around any comment there?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I don’t remember the book. There is a couple of things, If you want to normalize it if you go into the previous first quarter, we had some of those big {[Inaudible] shipments if you remember them. So you almost have to normalize them both out & I don’t think if you normalize both of those, I don’t think the organic growth is that much different whether you put it in or take it out on sales on revenues. On the bookings the big difference is if you may or may not recall the first quarter of last year things looked pretty ugly in the parashoote business but that has really started the book up. We have got some quite big orders dropped in, we have some more just cooking away, so that business is whereas we were a bit concerned six months into it we are starting to feel significantly better now about it. I hope that answers.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

Okay.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

So I think when you normalize the revenues the answer does not change a whole lot. If you normalize it for things in both quarters.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

Okay & could you give us you mentioned this pipeline of opportunities being active in the M&A pipeline. Can u give us some sense for what kind of things you were seeing international versus domestic whether you are seeing more in defense or commercial & relative sizes? Any way to kinda of?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I would say the sizes are roughly comparable to what we have seen before though I have to say we have seen a few of little more sizable. I don’t mean in the $3 billion, $4 billion range but a little more sizable. If you pull those couple out the rest are more in the normal kind of things we see. We clearly continue to see more European activity than we have in the past & I would say most of what we are looking at not all but most is commercial rather military.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

Okay & are most of these privates?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Range the usual range of suspects. Private, strategic and PE.

Gautam Khanna – Cowen and Co.

Okay. Thanks a lot. I will get back in the qeue.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Robert Spingarn from Credit Suisse. Go ahead.

Robert Spingarn – Credit Suisse

Hi good morning. This is actually Joe on for Rob. Thanks for taking the question. Nick I wanted to ask on [Inaudible] OE & recognizing it is a small part of commercial OE but what’s driving that big uptick in [Inaudible]OE, are there any particular platforms where you are seeing that strength?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

First of all it is pretty broadly distributed across the platforms. I would not draw much from that other than it is just timing. You know as everybody knows the bigger more expensive ones are doing a little better than the lower priced ones & we are reasonably represented in that but I don’t mean to imply anything as far as the production rate forecast for business just OEM. I think it is just timing just when the shipments happen to fall.

Robert Spingarn -Credit Suisse

Okay. Got it. That’s very helpful. Thank you. I will jump back in the que.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead Noah.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

Hi Good morning everyone.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

I wondered if you could maybe help us out with how aftermarket averages something greater than 10% the rest of the year to get to your full year guidance just because the quarter at 5% and it seemed like end market conditions were reasonably strong in the quarter. I know you pointed out the distributor item but even if I adjust for that.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Yes. That’s not a lot

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

Not a lott. So help us out with what changes in that growth rate through the rest of the year?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I believe Noah, that is a leading question. I believe to make it through the year we will have to see pickup in the back half of the year.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

So what changes in the actual end market because the [Inaudible] get more difficult. It doesn’t seem like traffic would accelerate. It seems like you would almost have to be counting on airline inventory restocking or some deferred maintenance opening up or something else [Inaudible] to the company.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I would say, as I said, if you look at the balance of the year, if I had a handy cap or guidance, I am going to take our guidance on EBITDA, which all of you know is the bps guidance too, I would say there’s probably some uncertainty around the commercial aftermarket. Clearly, it has to pickup in the second half of the year. We were sort of halfway through the year last year with the same concern and then in the last six months we got pretty strong. I am not prepared at this point to say that the numbers we have been using are not good. I think there is some reasonable chance. But it clearly is a little bit of a stretch each quarter that goes by. On the other hand I think the defense, we probably could be conservative and I think we could be a little conservative on the margins. So sort of like the putting them all in the stew, it looks to me like there’s probably a little more up and down at this point in the guidance. But I can’t tell you I am absolutely sure about one segment versus the other, but hopefully you have got the sense.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

Okay & then maybe following on that Nick I wondered if you might provide your view on what you think lower oil means for the industry? It would seem like that could potentially help the aftermarket but it sounds like others are saying at least that it’s not quite yet it seems like it could potentially stretch out the replacement decision for an airline, anything you are already hearing & seeing or anything you think could happen as a result?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I think Noah probably the same things you hear & see and surmise. First I would say I think the oil prices have to stay down for a longer period of time to change anyone’s behavior substantively. They have got to work out through the [Inaudible] buy them out or something & I don’t think this is enough time to change people’s thought patterns or behavior patterns. Now if it does there are two schools of thought as you know, on the one hand if you fly all planes all the planes longer that is better for the aftermarket. If you pull them out of the desert or if you keep flying them more hours which you would tend to do if you have lower prices that is good. On the other hand I will say historically if fuel prices go down then the airlines get profitable. Right or wrong historically when they make money they start buying new airplanes. So that sort of the counterbalance. At this point I don’t know how to call that other than to say it’s something we have got to watch closely but I suspect it takes a longer period of time for anyone to change their thought pattern.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

So you have not actually seen any real behavioral change?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

No we have not.

Noah Poponak – Goldman Sachs

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead sir.

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

Yes. Hi this is actually Lou on for Myles. How are you guys doing?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good.

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

Just a quick question. The cash flow was very strong in the quarter. Anything in particular to drive that . It’s not usually the strongest quarter.

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

You are right. In the first quarter first our quarter effectively ended December 25 & we didn’t have any principal & paid almost no income taxes so it was timing that’s why in my comments I said we still expect to get the same amount by the end of the year because we have little bit of outflow for those payments in the second quarter.

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

I know it looked like working capital was a boost as well?

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

Well, I don’t know what you mean when you say a boost. Can you expand on that?

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

It was $65 million. Prior years it was more of a use of cash.

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

Okay. Well, when I look at the working capital when I look at operating I look more at my [Inaudible] & my inventory turns & they were well behaved versus our expectations. Sometimes when you look at the gap numbers it can get distorted with some acquisition accounting.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

The big numbers Greg are the timing

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

The timing.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

So you did not have an interest payment there.

Greg Rufus – Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President, Secretary

That’s right. There was a cut off of it.

Lou Taylor – Deutsche Bank

Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Hi. Good morning.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

I wanted to first ask about airborne and EME. Its been over a year for airborne & almost a year for EME, are these following sort of a [Inaudible] in terms of margin improvement as you expected or is it maybe a little slower than expected considering still sort of a two point of gross margin impact we saw from acquisition? Did I get it? but how are these tracking relative to your expectations?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Let me deal with them in two pieces. airborne first. As you probably know for the first year of ownership Airborne was frankly the revenues & bookings were lower than we expected &concurrently the EBITA was little lower. However in 2015 it’s starting off well. Our present expectation is that for this year it will be at or above our expectations at the time we bought it. I remind you that both Airborne & EME as we said when we bought them, we sort of had to buy these right. These are not businesses that are going to get the typical TransDigm margins. They will move up & they are moving up, but they wont get to those kind of margins. We bought them at substantially below the margins we typically buy things but we saw plenty value there. EME is again moving up. We bought that at a [Inaudible] or significantly kind of EBITA margin i.e moving up reasonably nicely, again it will never get up to full year 50% but it’s moving up significantly. It’s a small business. So it never going to move the average much. Dollar wise it’s also going to be impacted by the exchange rate situation. It’s a Euro business so the actually dollars have been knocked down on the conversion though the margin is moving up reasonably well.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Okay. That is helpful.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

That was never going to move anything. That’s never going to move anything.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Yes. It’s a smaller deal. I guess with EME in particular being obviously based in Europe & in Germany in particular, currency risk aside because who knows about that but has your experience with that acquisition changed your appetite at all for European transactions? Maybe you opened it up a little bit anything we could infer from just your experience now almost a year in with EME that might alter your thinking as you review European ?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

We feel okay about that. I think we feel ok about it. We see acquisitions with the right value proposition. We feel fine about them. I would remind you, we have a business in Belgium, we have a business in Germany now, we have a couple of businesses in U.K. that were operating. So we have I would say in general not 100%, but mostly our experiences has been positive.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Okay. That’s good & then just finally, just to follow up on the commercial aftermarket discussion. To your comment Nick that in an environment like this when the airlines have better visibility on profit you are maybe not seeing utilization change in terms of the older aircraft or pulling them out of the desert or anything their willingness to spend on new aircraft translate to the aftermarket environment either in terms of maybe they might take a different approach the airlines, different approach to their own working capital their own inventory levels, their safety stocks, [Inaudible] Do you expect perhaps to see that as we go through the year assuming ongoing lower crude prices?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Typically we have. Typically that’s what happens as you know when they start to be profitable & they get money they start buying more. Start buying more everything airplanes, parts, everything. I can’t say we have seen it yet but that would be a not a typical pattern. As I said before I don’t think this situation of these low significant drop in fuel prices has been in there long enough that it’s changing people’s behavior yet.

Ken Herbert – Canaccord

Okay. Alright. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli from KeyBanc. Go ahead sir.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Hi. Good morning guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Nick maybe just back on defense. It clearly sounds like you have got some the orders you were waiting for on the airborne side & I am just curious were you guys expecting those orders to come in when you laid out your initial guidance. I know you talked maybe there was potential upside to defense this year but I am trying to get a sense of whether or not the airborne order flow was baked into this year’s outlook?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

We definitely had an increase in this year outlook for airborne. We expected a pickup.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Okay.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

& at least first, one quarter end it is looking quite strong & the pipeline looks strong.I don’t want to start to pull out our full year guidance between operating units but it surely makes us feel better rather than worse.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Sure & then what about just broad commentary about your remaining traditional military aftermarket activity are you seeing any movement there? I know there are some other companies expecting aftermarket to begin picking up here are you seeing any changes in purchasing pattern from any trends?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I honestly can’t say we have. I also am getting a little resistant to predict this the only thing I can say with certainty is every time I tried it it was wrong. By the way we are on a little on the upside thank God but I can’t say its mixed. If you look across our operating units it’s mixed.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Okay.

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

I don’t know that I can give you a clear pattern or region for that other than in the parashoot business we know we had some big international orders.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Okay. That’s fair & last one. I don’t know if you have color on this but now that the 350 has been delivered any kind of change in the view there on initial provisioning. I know there probably are not too many airlines getting that platform this year but any color on that?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Michael we are not figuring on any. Could it be yes maybe.

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Okay

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

But we are not figuring it in our guidance or numbers we are not figuring

Michael Ciarmoli – KeyBanc

Okay. Perfect. That’s all I had. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Joseph Nadol – JP Morgan, Go ahead Joe.

Joseph Nadol – JP Morgan

Hi Good morning

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

Good morning Joe

Joseph Nadol – JP Morgan

I had a question. which was caused you to hold back in the quarter?

Nick Howley – Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer

What caused it I don’t know anything particular we sort of bought up what we planned to buy up & we reauthorize more but we just decided not to do it. I don’t know that I would not take too much out of that but we bought quite about 900,000 shares. Yes it was more unusual if we bought them we did not buy so we sort of bought up about what we had in mind to buy & we stopped.

Operator

Liza Sabol – Manager of Investor Relations

Okay. If there are no further questions we thank you all for calling in today & look for our 10Q to be filed on Friday as mentioned. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This concludes the presentation, you may now disconnect. Have a good day.