TopBuild Corp. (NYSE:BLD) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Susan Maklari: Okay. All right. Thank you for that. And then, maybe thinking a bit about price and price/cost. Now, you mentioned the announcements, the price increases that have come out from the suppliers. Just any thoughts on how that can roll through the business and your ability to continue to offset those incremental increases?

Robert Buck: Yeah. This is Robert. So, obviously confident, we’ve talked in the past about, number one, how we manage those, given our ERP system and that touch with each branch at the local level. Two, I think we’ve demonstrated, our teams in the field have demonstrated great track record with that. I think relative to, how that plays out, we’ll see how the single-family starts play out. We think it’s going to be a positive back out of the year, which will keep material tight and probably goes well for the traction relative to what happens with price and the price increase. So, more to come, but you’re definitely confident in our ability to manage that appropriately.

Susan Maklari: Okay. All right. Thank you for the color. Good luck with everything.

Robert Buck: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ken Zener with Seaport Research Partners. Please proceed with your question.

Ken Zener: Good morning, everybody.

Robert Buck: Good morning, Ken.

Ken Zener: So, it’s an interesting combination here where price is positive. You talked about on the distribution side, supply actually impacting your volume. If I understood your language correct, is that correct?

Robert Buck: That’s correct.

Ken Zener: So, could you give a little context? I know, like, north of $1.4 million starts, things are pretty tight. That’s supporting the price of what had been slowing activity. It’s obviously accelerating again. But did you guys know when nobody’s going to home? I don’t hear allocation like people going to Home Depot per se, or did you talk to how it was so tight and perhaps why we didn’t see greater price dynamics, more favorable prices, supply was so tight, I guess, is one of the things I’m trying to understand as that goes to the — perhaps tension that we might see in price in the second half.

Robert Buck: Yeah. Ken, so I’ll take the first part of material and Rob will handle the price detail piece of it. So, yeah, so material, definitely still tight. I mean, I would say even say that we’ve had to buy some material through third-party, if you will, given the tightness. Now, as we mentioned back in February, some of that is planned maintenance, but there’s also been some downtime in the industry, as well unplanned downtime in the industry that caused material to be tight. I think what we’ve seen is, you see given some of the code adoption, you’re seeing some momentum with other products. We mentioned on our prayer remarks around spray foam. So, I think you see that relieving some of it relative to the installation side of the business.

And then we talked about fiberglass. There was also some commercial products that were very tight in the first quarter as well, mainly around mineral wool and some of the manufacturers’ issues of that product as well, but that’s definitely improving. So, we think material stays tight, but we think we’ll be in a good position here given some of the other products. Rob will talk about the price piece.

Robert Kuhns: Yeah. So, around price, Ken, I mean, the way to think about the first quarter, a couple things impacting that and probably making it a little less than if you just look at fiberglass in a vacuum. One is the timing of the fiberglass increase. I’d say it was more of a mid-quarter implementation. So, we should see that improve as we go into the second quarter. And then, the other thing you have is the carryover impact of some price decreases we saw last year, primarily around spray foam. And that’s going to continue on in through the second quarter, offsetting some of the price increase we see on fiberglass.

Ken Zener: Okay. And then, can we talk to — obviously, the deal didn’t go through, but mechanical is a huge area, right, where you can keep doing acquisitions given your mid-teens share for quite a while. But perhaps, is there something different that as you do these mechanical, acquisitions that will change the incremental margins of Specialty Distribution, or is it still expected to largely be, let’s say, 75% material, 25% perhaps value add. So, the incrementals of that business over time will still be in that low to mid-teens range that I think you guys have described before?

Robert Kuhns: Yeah. I mean, I think from what we’ve seen, I think we’ll expect most of the distributors in that space will probably see EBITDA margins when we acquire them, kind of in that mid-teens type, or low, I’d say more low, 10%, 11% type range, maybe low-teens, but then just like with DI, and the synergies will be able to drive, we’d expect to be able to get that up into the mid-teens, and the incrementals over time, once you get that first year fixed cost behind you there and you’re leveraging that fixed cost base, we’d expect the incrementals to be in that 22 to 27 that we target, over the long-term. We talk about distribution being more towards the low end of that and obviously install more towards the high end.

Ken Zener: Thank you very much.

Robert Kuhns: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Rehaut with JP Morgan. Please proceed with your question.

Michael Rehaut: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to circle back for a moment. Don’t mean to beat a dead horse here, but obviously a lot of focus around the mechanical vertical. And I was wondering if you could give a little more color around, what the metal building insulation represented as a percent of sales of SPI, what it also represents as a percent of the $5.75 billion mechanical vertical that you posted on the slides. And I noticed that you didn’t change the overall TAM of that vertical relative to your prior presentation. So, I’m just kind of wondering around this subsector if you still see it as a viable part of the industry. And again, just trying to get a size of SPI in the broader sector and if it changes your view around this subcategory as still being an area as part of your acquisition strategy within the broader space.