Thermon Group Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:THR) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Brian Drab : We see for growth in fiscal ’25 and ’24. Could you can you put numbers on that for now?

Bruce Thames: No. we’re able to de-bottleneck and we’ll do that. Yes.

Brian Drab : Okay. But fiscal 24, you’d end up with what type of organic revenue growth at the midpoint.

Bruce Thames: I guess I need to look at back at some of the release, if you said business to the extent organic-inorganic, I think 12% is at the midpoint and then looking back out about 2% for vapor. So, we’re talking about 10% organic growth in 24% roughly.

Brian Drab: Okay. So, coming off somewhat from a very high level of?

Bruce Thames: Yes, correct.

Brian Drab : Okay. And then last question for me for now is, is there anything you can say about the gross margin that you’re expecting in the Q4 and Sergey said it already?

Kevin Fox : I think, Brian, if we look at the product mix that we saw in Q3, I think we would expect that to be fairly consistent with where we are, the drivers in Canada macro, that’s not going to reverse all of a sudden, I’m sorry, I think the gross margins in Q4. If you think about the guide implies something fairly consistent in Q4 as we saw in Q3.

Brian Drab : Got it. Okay. Thank you, both.

Kevin Fox : Thank you, Brad.

Operator: Our next question comes to the line of, Jon Braatz with Kansas City Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Jonathan Braatz : Morning, Bruce. Morning, Kevin. Bruce, could you touch a little bit more on Canada. You the weakness there. Obviously, you talk a little bit about weather, but is it merely whether there or anything beyond that might have legs into 25, and let’s say beyond?

Bruce Thames: We are seeing just a weaker macroeconomic backdrop in Canada, and they’ve got some very restrictive fiscal policies. And I think inflation, there’s been a little stickier and the impact of both. They’re higher interest rates, I think is, as affected their consumer more just based on some of the structure of kind of their mortgages and the like. So, we do expect that to be a headwind in the Canadian market. But certainly, we believe that our business as we position that with our strategy, we are executing and I’ll go back to the point. We’ve been able to grow our bookings in spite of just some weakness that we’ve seen there over the last couple of quarters. We have seen that business decelerate and we’ve still been able to generate growth.

So, well, I think it’s going to be a little bit of a headwind, as we said on the organic growth going forward. So, we expect slower growth rates organically, but our ability to acquire vapor power and have the capacity for potentially additional M&A is going to generate some nice growth in our fiscal 2021.

Jonathan Braatz : Okay. On vapor power from the numbers you showed in terms of revenue growth and margin improvement, it’s pretty nice, Doug. They’ve done a good job. And when you look across, let’s say, the boiler industry in general, what do I assume they’re probably growing faster than the industry the industry? What are they doing differently that sets them apart and differentiates themselves? And would you think that that type of growth you’ve seen 18% on the top line, would you think that, would we’d be able to be continued?

Bruce Thames: Yes, that’s a great question. And I think, how they achieve that growth will. First of all, vapor power actually has some very kind of niche needs products that they offer. And I mentioned some of those here on the call, and one is the electrode boilers and steam generators as well as their electric resistance boilers. In addition, they have of gas fired coal to supercritical steam generators, and these are generating steam at extremely high temperatures and pressures. And all of these are really very compact packages. And so, if you look back at that growth, a lot of that’s been driven by growth in their electrical boiler and their revenue from electric boilers has virtually doubled over that more than doubled over that period of time.

And we see that being driven by electrification. And these electric boilers are really the best technology for electrification of steam, which has traditionally been generated with hydrocarbon fired here. So, this really gives customers the ability to eliminate their emissions on site by converting traditional gas fired boilers and steam generators to electric so that’s a big trend that we see continuing, quite frankly, for the next couple of decades. But the other thing or the super [indiscernible].

Kevin Fox: Not to go ahead, Bruce.

Bruce Thames: The supercritical, the gas-fired supercritical steam. Our generators of those are used for these specialty applications, which I illustrated here for plastics recycling, where extremely high temperatures and pressures are required in this case to take waste plastics and frac those back down to their constituent parts that can then be used and sold for and petrochemical and chemical manufacturing. So really truly bringing that back down to the raw material and feedstock. So those are some pretty unique products and applications, and that’s really enabled them to grow above and beyond. Maybe what you would see in a typical gas for gas-fired hydrocarbon fired boiler business. So, and that’s really how it fits with our strategy.