Semtech Corporation (NASDAQ:SMTC) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Paul Pickle: Yeah. And so if we look, my commentary was on modules versus router was in the current quarter. So I’m kind of projecting a little bit — really kind of talking about the guidance here. You got routers. I’m going to give you some rough percentages so don’t expect us to reconcile to the dollar, but essentially, you’ve got $300 million of module business, you’ve got $100 million connectivity and $100 million of routers. I’m really oversimplifying the actual buckets and allocations, but routers pulled back approximately 30% to 35% or so. But modules is substantially off in going forward quarter. I don’t expect that to sustain at those levels. I expect that inventory to be consumed. It is a business where you are into placing a purchase order for a chipset manufacturer.

So any acquisition of those chipsets really need to make sure that the modules follow through. And so a lot of those orders tend to be in NCNR. So you can kind of see how we had a bit of a pile-up even at the end customers even though modules is largely direct about 80% direct business. So good visibility into those customers, good visibility into demand. I’d say that their consumption, their end market demand is off a little bit, but it really it does come down to the ordering patterns that kind of made this happen.

Harsh Kumar: Thank you, Paul. That was super helpful. And then the other one that a lot of the customers are our clients or investors are asking us is they truly believe and I think you’re seeing is pretty much is, Semtech is off the ground and kind of or let’s just say having along the bottom, but things looking a little bit brighter, but customers really want to understand maybe simplistically put how many more months or quarters or weeks of excess inventory exist there before we maybe start to see similar positive trends at Sierra Wireless? Would you be willing us — willing to shed some color on that?

Paul Pickle: Sure. I definitely take, kind of an end-demand or consumption, look at the business, and I’ve been going through that pretty exhaustively at least on the IC side. We’ve got really good data that exists in our analytics systems here. And so, I can say confidently that at this juncture we’ve got a couple of quarters underneath us where that end market consumption has stabilized, and in fact, we are starting to see some upticks. I’ll say the possibility exist for some Q4 upsides although we are not currently putting it in the forecast and so it does feel like we’ve been skipping along the bottom here at least for the semiconductor business. In hardware, I think it’s a bit of a — couple of different factors. It’s surge cycle kind of happened alongside semiconductors.

But due to supply chain and cycle times, you can get a little bit of a pile-up or later effect, that whipsaw effect is coming in a little bit later stage, but for the most part, I still have a high degree of confidence in the overall health of the business. There is not one piece of business here that I can note that is going to terminate early or accelerate into life. And so it’s merely a product as you noted of just kind of consuming channel inventories and then focusing our go-to-market sales efforts and making sure that we are not leaving any stone unturned. So in terms of how many quarters of inventory? I’ve largely believed that we are not going to spring back. I’m not quoting a V-shaped recovery where we are going to spring back to previous levels.

I think those were largely overstated. All true, all good orders but customers were extremely optimistic they were just — they were telling the truth. They were just wrong in terms of how much product they needed. So I kind of think in terms of a bit of a U-shaped recovery how it’s going to play out in the results and I still think mid-next year recovery cycle for us would largely be in line of channel inventory drawdown along with a methodical pickup in POS, back to moderate levels.

Harsh Kumar: Can I sneak in just one last one. Do you think things get worse from the guidance, that you gave of roughly, call it $200 million? Do you think we got to take another step down or do you think we are troughing out at the bottom for your total business?

Paul Pickle: I believe it’s at the bottom.

Harsh Kumar: Okay. Thank you. Thanks so much, Paul.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Please proceed with your question.

Tore Svanberg: Yes, thank you. Welcome Paul, and Emeka I assume this is your last call. So thank you for all the interactions over the years. My first question for you, Paul. So it sounds like you’re finding a bottom, but assuming that we kind of stay here for a while. At one point, would you have to take some actions as far as the balance sheet is concerned, because you’re 5.3 times levered, that number is only going to go up next quarter. So at what point — what are some of the things that you looking forward to take some more drastic actions?

Paul Pickle: Well, the first step is the size of the business. According to what end market consumption is, I don’t want to get into the point, where I cut too deep into R&D and limit our ability to grow in the future. So philosophically speaking we are kind of looking at all support functions and trying to optimize the organization. I will say from that standpoint, I do think that there was a lot of optimization to be had. So spending levels didn’t need to be at the levels, that they were in the combined entities in order to support the businesses that they have. So I do think that there is some improvements there to be made and I think that will be in fairly good shape. I think that exercise, given the fact that the capital end markets are not — it’s not really conducive to doing a divestiture although we are not opposed to that.

All cards are on the table in addressing the balance sheet. I’m really resigned to making sure that we get there on our own organically and can develop a plan that drives 12 to 18 months of a fair bit of confidence in the model to drive those covenants. And I think that we’ve got that developed. Anything on top of that would be additional and an improvement in the current outlook. But I think that we are going to be in good shape at least for the next 12 months to 18 months. If we get a recovery mid-next year and this is what’s in the model, then I think it’s all improvement from there. So trying to take a fairly conservative look in terms of recovery expectation. I’m not banking on the market going up. I’m going to make sure that we size the business accordingly.

The size of the spend for the business, that we have and then as the market picks up, I think we’ll be in a much better position because it will be upside from that standpoint.