Fulgent Genetics, Inc. (NASDAQ:FLGT) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Fulgent Genetics, Inc. (NASDAQ:FLGT) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript May 2, 2025

Fulgent Genetics, Inc. misses on earnings expectations. Reported EPS is $-0.37396 EPS, expectations were $-0.19.

Melanie Solomon: Greetings and welcome to the Fulgent Genetics, Inc. Q1 2025 Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Now my pleasure to turn the call over to Melanie Solomon, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Melanie Solomon: Morning, welcome to the Fulgent Genetics, Inc. First Quarter 2025 Financial Results Conference Call. On the call are Ming Hsieh, Chief Executive Officer, Paul Kim, Chief Financial Officer, and Brandon Perthuis, Chief Commercial Officer. The company’s press release discussing the financial results is available on the Investor Relations section of the company’s website ir.fulgentgenetics.com. A replay of this call will be available shortly after the call concludes on the Investor Relations section of the company’s website. Management’s prepared remarks and answers to your questions on today’s call will contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements represent management’s estimates based on current views, expectations, and assumptions, which may prove to be incorrect.

As a result, matters discussed in any forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances that may cause actual results to differ from those described in the forward-looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update any of the forward-looking statements it may make today to reflect actual results or changes in expectations. Listeners should not rely on any forward-looking statements as predictions of future events, should listen to management’s remarks today with the understanding that actual events, including the company’s actual future results, may be materially different than what is described in or implied by these forward-looking statements. Please review the more detailed discussions related to these forward-looking statements, including the discussions of some of the risk factors that may cause results to differ from those described in the forward-looking statements contained in the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the previously filed 10-Ks for the year ended 12/31/2024 and subsequently filed reports, which are available on the company’s Investor Relations Website.

Management’s Prepared Remarks, Including Discussions Of Earnings And Earnings Per Share, Contain Financial Measures Not Prepared In Accordance With Accounting Principles Generally Accepted In The United States or GAAP. Management has presented these non-GAAP financial measures because it believes it may be useful to investors for various reasons, but these measures should not be viewed as a substitute for or superior to the company’s financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Please see the company’s press release discussing its financial results for the first quarter of 2025 for more information, including the description of how the company calculates non-GAAP income or loss, earnings or loss per share, non-GAAP gross profit, non-GAAP gross margin, non-GAAP operating profit or loss, and margin and adjusted EBITDA and a reconciliation of these financial measures to income or loss earnings or loss per share, and operating margin.

Most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. With that, I’d now like to turn the call over to Ming Hsieh. Thank you, Melanie. Good morning.

Ming Hsieh: Thank you for joining our call today. I will start with some comments on the February and our two business lines. Then Brandon will review our product and go-to-market updates for our laboratory services business. And Paul will conclude with the financials and outlook before we take your questions. We are pleased with our first quarter results. Having shown year-over-year growth in laboratory service, we are looking at seeing great good fundamentals in Q2 2025. Our third development pipeline is on track. For our first clinical candidate, FID-107, our phase two clinical trial in combination with cetuximab in patients with recurrent or metastatic head, neck, squamous cell carcinoma is progressing well. With seventeen patients receiving treatment, and twenty-three enrolled.

We will continue to enroll patients throughout this year. We’ll continue to project the clinical trial cost of phase two to be approximately $10 million over a multiple-year period. Our second clinical candidate FID-202 is set to begin phase one trials over the next few weeks. FID-202 is nanoencapsulated SN-38 for the treatment of solid tumors, including potentially colon, pancreatic, ovarian, and bile duct cancers. We continue to expect a clinical trial cost of phase one slice one b trial for FID-202 to be approximately $8 million. I’m encouraged by the continued progress with our clinical pipeline and the potential for both FID-107 and FID-202. We are targeting heavily pretreated patients with few options left. I hope we’ll be able to provide additional treatment options to further their lives.

We anticipate the cost of this program is very reasonable and we’ll be view our investment will be rewarded. As a reminder, our drug candidates were familiar with our novel nanoencapsulation technology, which includes many issued or active patents or active patent applications. And with a therapy platform, designed to improve the therapeutic windows and the pharmacokinetics profile for both new and existing cancer drugs. Overall, I’m pleased with our strong start to the year in our core laboratory services business and the progress we’re making with our therapeutic development pipeline. We continue to be in a strong financial position to execute our strategy. I would like to thank our employees, partners, and stakeholders for your hard work and loyalty in a great quarter for our business.

We look forward to further progress in Q2 2025. I will now turn over the call to Brandon Perthuis, our Chief Commercial Officer, to talk more about our laboratory services business. Brandon?

Brandon Perthuis: Thanks, Ming. It was a great quarter with all three business areas showing year-over-year growth. At a high level, precision diagnostics was up $6.7 million or 17.8% year-over-year, anatomic pathology was up $2.2 million or 9.5% year-over-year, and biopharma services was up $1.4 million or 51.3% year-over-year. Precision Diagnostics was up 1.2% sequentially, while anatomic pathology was down approximately 3.9% sequentially. Biopharma, coming off a record fourth quarter, was down 33.7% sequentially. But as we have mentioned, this is expected due to the nature of this business and timing of the contracts. The growth in precision diagnostics for the quarter was led by our reproductive health services, continued strength in our legacy diagnostics offerings, and Beacon expanded carrier screening.

We continue to pick up market share in this area by expanding our business with existing customers as well as new client wins. In previous calls, we announced two new initiatives, hereditary cancer testing with the VA and a partnership with Foundation Medicine. While both are still fairly new to us, we are very pleased with the progress. The sales team has done a great job onboarding new VA hospitals and we are seeing significant usage. The focus will be to continue to sell through the contract and expand our footprint nationally. Regarding Foundation Medicine, we are seeing nice momentum onboarding clients and the demand for hereditary cancer tests appears to be there. We are optimistic these initiatives will provide potential upside for us this year.

In terms of our anatomic pathology business, our laboratory continues to deliver excellent quality and turnaround time, and the improved sales team is doing a great job delivering this message to potential clients. Regarding the sales team, we continue to methodically hire focused mostly on new expansion territories. I believe this will continue into Q2 2026. We’ve now posted back-to-back quarters of solid year-over-year growth, so it’s exciting to see the investments we’ve made in this area paying off. One area to highlight in particular is the investment we have made in digital pathology. During the first quarter, we digitized over 85% of our slides and recognized over $1 million in digital billing for the first quarter. We believe we are significantly ahead of the curve in this area.

Moving to digital has several advantages, notably the ability to use AI to assist our pathologists as well as providing our pathologists the option to read remotely. Remote reading has been huge for us since we can now recruit pathologists from all over the country without the need to relocate to one of our labs. With this new recruiting tool, we now work with over 60 pathologists, most of which are subspecialty trained. In terms of AI, now that most of our slides have been scanned, we can use commercially available AI, and we are currently building our own AI tools, both of which have the potential to increase quality, turnaround time, and throughput. Our biopharma services business continues to perform well and had an excellent quarter. We are seeing continued strength from existing clients as well as the deepening pipeline of opportunities.

Expect to see some variability from quarter to quarter, on the nature of this business, with a vastly improved product offering, we believe we’ll continue to see demand for these services. In previous calls, we discussed the potential for the FDA to regulate lab-developed tests or LDTs. Recently, a district court ruling overturned the final rule on LDTs, and as a result, further regulatory efforts regarding LDTs may be unlikely in the near term. The court stated that, quote, the text structure, and history of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and the Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments make clear that the FDA lacks the authority to regulate laboratory-developed tests. Although there is a possibility of an appeal, an appeal may be unlikely at this time for a variety of reasons.

This is an evolving and fast-moving topic, so we will continue to monitor developments for the foreseeable future. We were pleased to see 2025 get off to a fast start, we hope to see the momentum continue. We believe the investments we are making in our operation and business have paid off and should continue to do so. I’ll now turn the call over to Paul Kim, our Chief Financial Officer. Paul?

Paul Kim: Thank you, Ryan. Revenue in the first quarter was $20.25 total. $73.5 million compared to $76.2 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. Revenue from COVID-19 testing is negligible. Revenue from our core business totaled $73.5 million. GAAP gross margin was 38.6% and on a non-GAAP basis was 41%. Gross margins improved year-over-year, showing the benefit of our continued efficiencies and streamlining of our business. Now to operating expenses. Total GAAP operating expenses were $48.1 million in the first quarter compared to $48 million in the fourth quarter of 2024. Non-GAAP operating expenses totaled $37.4 million, remaining essentially flat compared to the fourth quarter of 2024. First quarter operating expenses benefited from the reversal of $1 million previously accrued as a potential liability related to the SEC since the SEC has advised the company that it has concluded its investigation with no enforcement action recommended.

Non-GAAP operating margin decreased approximately five percentage points sequentially to a minus 10% primarily due to lower revenue and gross margin. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the first quarter was approximately $2.9 million compared to a loss of $3.2 million in Q1 2024. On a non-GAAP basis and excluding equity-based compensation expense, and intangible asset amortization, income for the quarter was $1.2 million or 4¢ per share based on 30.9 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding. Since the beginning of 2025, as of today, we have repurchased approximately 646,000 shares at an aggregated cost of $10.9 million pursuant to our stock repurchase program. Since the inception of the repurchase program in March 2022, a total of approximately $110.4 million has been spent.

With approximately $139.6 million remaining available for future repurchases of our common stock. Turning to the balance sheet. We ended the first quarter with approximately $114.6 million of cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash, and marketable securities. We are reiterating our outlook for 2025 provided in February. We are guiding to core revenue, which is total laboratory service revenue for the company without COVID-19 testing revenue. We expect total core revenue to be approximately $310 million for 2025 representing a growth of 10% year-over-year. We continue to expect non-GAAP gross margins for the full year to slightly exceed 40% continuing the strong momentum we’ve experienced in recent quarters. We continue to expect non-GAAP operating margins of approximately minus 15% for the year, as we continue to invest in business growth further develop laboratory operations, and enhance our existing laboratory facilities.

We remain focused on managing our spend and continue to believe that our foundational technology platform supports a strong margin profile longer term. We continue to expect associated cash burn for our therapeutics development business of approximately $25 million this year which is contemplated in our EPS and cash guidance. We continue to expect our GAAP EPS to be a loss of approximately $1.95 per share excluding any future one-time charges. Using a 32 million average share count. Utilizing a non-GAAP tax provision and average share count of 32 million, we currently expect full year 2025 to be at a net non-GAAP loss of 65¢ per share excluding stock-based compensation in payments and amortization of intangible assets. As well as any one-time charges.

Finally, our cash position remains strong. We’re focused on efficient capital allocation that allows us to reinvest in the business. Fund key initiatives, support future growth. Excluding any future stock repurchases, and other expenditures outside the ordinary course, which could include M&A, we anticipate ending 2025 with approximately $770 million of cash, cash equivalents, and investments and marketable securities. The decrease from the previous estimate of $780 million relates to the $10.9 million spent year to date on stock repurchases. Overall, we see strength in our core business, which has grown organically and we see good momentum in 2025. Thank you for joining us on our call today. Operator, now you may open it up for questions.

Q&A Session

Operator: Certainly. We’ll now be conducting a question and answer session. If you’d like to be placed in the question queue, our first question today is coming from Liu Li from UBS. Your line is now live.

Liu Li: Thank you so much for taking my question. The first one is on the full-year guide. So you mentioned great momentum in the VA contract and the Foundation Medicine. So and you beat the quarter. So why not raising the guide? Do you think that there are any more upside or downside to the 25 number?

Paul Kim: Yeah. On the guide, I think your comment was on revenue, but I’ll also cover EPS as well. Given the fact that, we just initially, had the guide about eight or nine weeks ago when we announced our year-end results, we see good we actually see great momentum in our overall core business, particularly in the area of precision diagnostics. We just want to be a little bit more comfortable before we adjust the guide because you know, when we do potentially make any adjustments to the revenue guide, we want that to be a bit considerable rather than you know, something that’s less than that. And then on the EPS, as you see, we’ve had a, you know, very good first quarter and the EPS came in a bit better than what we internally estimated.

But we also want the adjustment to the EPS to be something that’s considerable when we do alter that. There’s certainly a possibility that we can do that in the second quarter. But we’re monitoring that. The other thing, on why we did not adjust the EPS guide at this point. Is because we have been a bit aggressive on our stock buyback. And the way the mechanics work on the stock buyback when you have losses is less shares that you have out there outstanding actually decreases your EPS. So we’re actually monitoring those dynamics before we adjust the guide on both the top as well as the bottom line.

Liu Li: Got it. Appreciate the color. So I think this question for Brandon. I think in the last quarter, you mentioned that there are some of the new accounts that you went in physician diagnostic slipped into 2025, so like Q1 and Q2. So I wonder your Q1 result, like how much is from of that is coming out from those new accounts where like you already fully them, and how much is actually the the kind of, like, the base precision diagnostic business, if that makes sense?

Brandon Perthuis: Yeah. I think it does, and thanks for the question. So I think the strong performance we had in the first quarter was certainly a mix of our existing clients ordering more from us. But probably more so new client wins. We continue to pick up market share in precision diagnostics, especially in the reproductive health arena. Yes. We’ve talked about new meaningful wins in previous quarters, and then onboarding early this year. We mentioned that some of these larger, you know, clients take some time to onboard and get implemented. That’s all happening in real time. So I think the strong performance we’re seeing is Fulgent Genetics, Inc. gaining additional market share in some of these areas. With meaningful new client wins.

Some of these new clients are still not fully onboarded. And we think about, you know, some of the very large practices and clinics throughout the country, it takes a while to onboard clinics, when they have 20, 30, 50 clinics across the country. So it’s a bit of a rollout, and it just takes some time. But all that’s progressing quite nicely, and I think we’re gonna continue to see momentum pick up from new client wins.

Liu Li: Got it. So final question for me. On capital with the deployment. Do you expect to doing more buyback in 2025? And how should we think about kind of, like, the M&A potential? Thank you.

Ming Hsieh: Yes. Thank you for the questions. Definitely, you see we’re starting to deploy the capital for the stock buybacks aggressively. In addition, we are evaluating various options for the potential M&A to enhance our distribution network. And the deployed over technologies. So all those options are open and we’ll accurately review every deal we are seeing.

Operator: Thank you. Our next question today is coming from David Westenberg from Piper Sandler. Your line is now live.

David Westenberg: Hi. Thanks for taking the question. So actually, I’ll start off, Ming Hsieh. Can you talk about the expected penetration rate once you launch FID-107? What do you expect the cadence of adoption? And can you remind us kind of is that a cancer with more broad-based chemotherapies or a lot more targeted?

Ming Hsieh: Yes. Thank you for the question. It is by combination with the cetuximab. We are talking for the EGFR positive patients, but it’s also with our chemo option. We’re also targeting non-EGFR populations together. The head and neck cancer is the initial restart, but mainly other options we could explore once we get concluded our dosing optimization in the phase two trials. But our overall results are good, and then also the market is quite large for us.

David Westenberg: Okay. Thank you. Paul, I wanna actually talk about maybe the capital deployment. And you do have a lot of different products now, and you do have pretty good efficiencies in the lab. Is there any thoughts to maybe, using capital deployment to expand sales and marketing? I know that, you know, usually I know you said you guys are looking at tuck-ins and stock buybacks. Is there any, you know, opportunity you think in terms of expanding that?

Paul Kim: Yeah. Yeah. That’s an excellent question. So, let me kinda tee that up, and then I’m gonna turn it over to Brandon. You take a look at our Q1 actual results, we talked about the reversal of the SEC accrual that we had in the G&A. Of $1 million. So you know, you see the G&A being, you know, a bit lower than our, you know, normalized, you know, rate of $22 to $23 million, excluding stock-based compensation. But to your question, on the sales and marketing, that was also lower. Meaning, if you take a look at our sales and marketing spend, it was $7.6 million in Q1. But we see that, being ramped up to between $10 and $11 million in Q2, Q3, and Q4, respectively. And I’ll turn it over to Brandon on why that is happening.

Brandon Perthuis: Yeah. Certainly. Thanks again for the question, David. I mean, the short answer is yes. We are hiring. We’re hiring in real time. We expect that to, you know, pick up some momentum throughout this year. We are hiring new salespeople for rare disease testing. We’re hiring new salespeople for reproductive health. And we’re also hiring people in the pathology division. We mentioned on the call, we’ve done a great job turning the pathology division around. We’re seeing that division return to growth. That team is producing. Able to take our, you know, great turnaround time and quality to market. So the short answer to your question, yes. We’re going to be hiring salespeople across all three divisions. Throughout the rest of this year.

We believe in terms of our go-to-market strategy, our competitive advantages, our contracts that we now have, we have what it takes, you know, operationally, to make this sales team successful. So, we’ll be updating, you know, you on, the pre, future phone calls about, you know, the size of the team, how quickly it’s growing. But we are about, you know, recruiting some really good talent here to come help grow the company.

David Westenberg: No. Very helpful. And, yeah, you did have a good growth in anatomic pathology, which came as a surprise. And, you know, good. Obviously, a positive. Right? Just in terms of strength in biopharma, that one actually I think that you guys were a little bit of an outlier in terms of the magnitude of how good that was. You know, just given the fact that biopharma, at least from our pulse, just seems to be a little bit more conservative in the current environment. Can you talk about, you know, appetite for spending the rest of the year and maybe color on, like, book to bill there? Just the way we should expect for the rest of the year because I mean, I don’t think you guys will be growing at 51%, but, you know, the rest of the year, and just wanna be careful about not getting over our skis in terms of where we’re thinking about that.

Brandon Perthuis: Yeah. Certainly. I think we’ve on each call, we’ve mentioned sort of the variability quarter to quarter in our bio business. That’s a factor of two things. One is still a relatively low number compared to the size of some of our other divisions. And the nature of that business, you know, as we win these awards, we do the work. Deliver the product. It can be very, and we’ve used even lumpy, you know, in previous calls. You know, we hope to continue to gain scale, so some of that variability, you know, kinda smooths out over time. But, you know, as long as we’re, you know, working with a relatively, you know, smaller number and we’re winning big awards at, you know, different intervals throughout the year, you’re going to continue to see some variability.

That said, I think we’ve mentioned that, you know, our biopharma capabilities have vastly expanded, from where they were a year or even two years ago. So I think some of the strength that we’re able to see is that a lot of these new services we’ve launched we’re able to then sell those to these biopharma clients as well. So back just a couple of years ago, we were mostly focused on next-generation sequencing. So there were a lot of studies, a lot of RFPs, a lot of opportunities we couldn’t address. But for the past couple of years, we’ve launched all these new platforms. So we’re able to address, you know, a much larger market. So, that team continues to build a good pipeline of opportunities. I think our relationships with the biopharma companies are deepening, meaning we’re seeing more pull-through from existing clients.

I think that’s great. It’s a good testament to our quality and what we’re doing with some of these companies. So we’ll see some variability quarter to quarter, but if you look at it over time, I think that’s an area that’s gonna grow quite well for the company.

David Westenberg: Thank you very much.

Operator: Next question is coming from Andrew Cooper from Raymond James. Your line is now live.

Andrew Cooper: Hi, everybody. Thanks for the questions. Maybe first, just was hoping you could unpack a little bit more of precision diagnostics momentum. You know, what sort of being driven by Nova versus Beacon, and then really outside of reproductive health as well, what you’re seeing, whether it’s in some of the rare disease or, frankly, some of those newer oncology offerings that you’ve rolled out over the last several quarters?

Brandon Perthuis: Yeah. Thanks for the question, Andrew. Yeah. Lot to unpack there. Right? We have a lot of tests in precision diagnostics, so, you know, it can be a bit overwhelming. I’ll get the easy one out of the way. Nova’s not contributing significantly at this point. We are seeing the feedback from the field. We are generating some volume. Even internationally, we’re generating some volume, but Nova wasn’t the driver, you know, for the quarter. I think there were probably two areas to highlight out of all the different tests that we offer. Still probably continues to be Beacon. We’ve just done an excellent job with the expanded carrier screening. I think our average turnaround time for the first quarter was something like eleven days.

Which is just spectacular. The quality of Beacon, what we’re doing with our bioinformatics to address the pseudo genes, the quality of our reports, it we’ve just done an excellent job, bringing that product to market. So our existing clients are ordering more, but more importantly, we’re onboarding new clients and having new client wins, for Beacon. Probably the other area to highlight is sort of our, you know, what our core business was for a long time is pediatric rare disease. I believe on the fourth quarter call, we talked about launching a new whole genome and that would include RNA sequencing. We branded it RISE RNA integrated sequencing evaluation. So we have added to that sales team in a small way so far. We plan to do additional hiring throughout the year.

But that area of our business is doing well. The market is really receiving the message that for diagnostic dilemmas, you know, undiagnosed genetic conditions, adding RNA to whole genome sequence is a very powerful tool. So that sales team has done a great job approaching children’s hospitals, academic medical centers, to, you know, really present the benefit of adding RNA to a whole genome. I think we’ve mentioned that literature shows with RNA we could diagnose up to twenty percent or thirty percent more patients. So we’re seeing momentum in the rare disease space. We’re investing in that area, and I think it’s going to have good momentum for us throughout the rest of the year.

Andrew Cooper: Perfect. And then maybe kinda circling back to the P&L a little bit. I think Paul, you commented on that sort of ten to eleven ballpark each of the rest of the quarters for sales and marketing. I guess, one, why should that not be going up if you’re talking about hiring kinda incrementally through the rest of the year? And then could you also help us think about gross margin trajectories as you do have sort of an evolving mix with bringing to your point kinda a lot of different moving parts, a lot of products that are contributing different amounts in a given quarter or for the full year?

Paul Kim: Yeah. As far as the gross margin, back about a year ago, our hope was that we get close to 40% but we actually overachieved that mark, I believe, the fourth quarter of 2024. And as we take a look at 2025, you know, even with the revenues, say, for Q1 being, you know, slightly lower than Q4, we actually feel pretty good with our gross margins. Gross margins excluding stock-based comp, was running at 41% or maybe, you know, a little bit higher than 41%. We don’t really see any reason on why, you know, everything being equal, you know, that would dip that much. There’s actually a pretty good chance that when we get towards the back half of the year, it might even increase from the gross margin target that we had. And then on the expenses for selling and marketing, I forgot the question that you had for selling and marketing. Was your question why the step up?

Andrew Cooper: You talked about the 10 to 11, but you’ve talked about kinda more hiring happening through the course of the year. So why the sudden step up and then sort of plateauing as opposed to a little bit?

Paul Kim: Because we are actively hiring. Right, in Q1, and a number of those people have already, you know, joined the company. It’s gonna be between ten and eleven, you know, million. That’s our forecast. You know, in the last three quarters. So in Q2, it might be something closer to 10 and in Q4, it might be something closer to 11.

Operator: Thank you. We reached the end of our question and answer session. And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today’s teleconference and webcast. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

Paul Kim: Thank you.