Cadre Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:CDRE) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Unidentified Analyst: Got it. Yeah, helpful. And then I guess just a quick follow-up again looking at the rest of the year, you had a at 23% incrementals here in Q1’s guide implies 25%. Can you bridge us to what that looks like for the rest of the year given a little bit of a step-up, you’ve got more of that M&A contribution. Was it kind of going to lap some of that distribution revenue here in Q1, I mean what does that look like just in terms of the bridge that we can think through for the rest of the year?

Brad Williams: The bridge driven by products or?

Unidentified Analyst: Yes, I mean by byproducts has been I mean obviously, you’ve got more of that Alpha contribution, which should be accretive, but.

Warren Kanders: So, that certainly helps right. And I think we talked at — an LTM basis Alpha being in the mid-40s from a revenue perspective, but they are heavily weighted towards the back end of the year, particularly heavy in Q4. So, that certainly picks up not only do you get a full quarter in Q2, but then as you go into Q3 and Q4, the revenue steps up pretty, pretty significantly. ICORE, fairly level through the year, distribution right now as we kind of view it and keep in mind, they have a really short visibility, not a lot of backlog. Q1 looks to be the high watermark for them on. We’re expecting to be slightly up year-on-year, maybe 1% to 2% on a revenue basis. As we move through the rest of the year, Armor looks to have a really strong back half, that’s both U.S. Armor as well as international Armor.

And then we have are a couple large projects that touch our Crowd Control business as well as the duty gear business that will ship out in the rest of the year. So, it’s no one single driver, but as you kind of move across, I think the things that changed this year on really Alpha being that back half heavy where we think about Q4 looks to be about 30% of the revenue in the year. So, it’s a — that definitely changes the profile as we move through the year.

Unidentified Analyst: Great. Thanks so much.

Operator: Your last question comes from the line of Mark Smith with Lake Street. Your line is open.

Mark Smith: Hi guys. Just as we think about the opportunities within M&A, we — it doesn’t seem like we’re talking as much about kind of military applications and products. Is that area that is interesting or is the kind of cycles they’re just make that maybe not as appealing as law enforcement now Nuclear Safety?

Brad Williams: Sure. Hey Mark, it’s Brad. So, there’s parts of military side of things that that as you know we play in today that we feel like is a strong part of our business. Some we’ve been fortunate to win most of the U.S. military holster business on the over the past four or five years. That’s a big, big part of the business and important to us as we won those just being one example. And militaries around the world are also buying from DoD, our explosive ordinance disposal bomb suits. So, that’s another big customer base. ICORE from a robot standpoint. So, it is a part of what we do to. It’s a part of what we selectively go after to make sure it meets our criteria from a margin and customer and defensibility standpoint in terms of the product.

So, definitely a segment that we’re interested in for the right type of opportunities. And then of course the law enforcement side of things, I think everybody knows the story there in terms of that’s where a lot of the products play the legacy products that we do have.

Mark Smith: Perfect. And then I had just one follow-up on some of the kind of more consumer side of the business and maybe it’s not as big. As you look at that business, it sounds like some strength there this quarter. Do you feel like any of that is being driven by maybe incremental spend for people in an election year? I know you’ve raised buying anything like that or is there — or is that just kind of new product and organic growth that’s doing well?

Brad Williams: Yes, the latter, the new product and the organic growth. So, about three years ago, I guess, now three and a half years ago, we made a decision to and reorganize our duty gear team from an engineering standpoint to put more focus on the consumer holster part of the business because you can imagine with the duty gear long purchase side being such an important part of what we do and actually where the company started, it would always run into conflicting priorities. So, the gentleman that runs that business sat down took a look at it. He and I met and we decided it’s right thing to do. It’s a fragmented segment in the consumer side of things. But for us we continue just positioned in that upper price point, highly featured, strong brand type of product category for us and it’s really been working for us having engineers that wake up every day.

Design new holsters. As you know, we’ve talked about it already a bunch of times. We won Guns and Ammo Holster of the Year with the INCOG X holster that we partnered with Haley Strategic on — we’ve launched a lot of really good products there. Knowing what we’re good at and where we should be positioned is where we continue to play. And yes, we intend on continue to drive it, and we’re seeing some good results from that.

Blaine Browers: I might just add to that, Brad, that our marketing e-com teams have really been focused on this channel, whether it’s consumer in stores or e-com. And they’ve done a really good job of not just growing our presence but also commanding more visibility from the consumer. And whether that’s the one-off run, they partner primarily with duty gear and our wholesalers and comms or just the constant feedback. So I think we’ve seen a real change, driven by not only the new product side, as Brad mentioned, but also our approach in the marketplace. And we got a very experienced team that understands that space really, really well and has done a great job driving that revenue for us.

Mark Smith: Perfect. Maybe one follow-up. You guys called out pricing growth exceeded your targets here in the quarter. Is there anywhere, in particular, any one market where maybe you’ve been more successful than others or anywhere where you’re maybe not able to take as much pricing and any insight into kind of Alpha and opportunities in pricing in that market would be great.