Bio-Techne Corporation (NASDAQ:TECH) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript

Patrick Donnelly: Okay. That’s helpful, Chuck. Thanks. And then maybe just a follow-up on China. I guess what do you guys need to see to get a little more constructive in that market? Obviously, the prior guide, you’re talking maybe a little bit about a second half recovery curious what you’re baking in at this point in terms of the year for China and if there’s any visibility into a level of improvement? Thank you, guys.

Charles Kummeth: Yeah. We went how many — how many quarters in a row a 25% growth or so. So we’re definitely in a lull right now. This is a negative teens quarter coming off of a high teens quarter growth last quarter. But going forward, it’s going to be more of the same. I think flattish would be hopeful the next quarter or 2, to be honest. So the second half, our Q4, who knows? I mean it wouldn’t take — we’re not that big in China, right, overall. So it wouldn’t take that much or that many orders or rejuvenation in any area to actually get back into some growth. But we’ll just have to wait and see. We’re just going to be cautious and not overpromise. There’s not a lot of evidence, but the attitude is very high. Our team is at full strength.

We have 0 attrition. Talked to a lot of customers personally here a couple of weeks ago, and actually, they’re fairly bullish as well. We’re just waiting for the government to start loosening up here with what they usually do in April, and they still haven’t done it. But once they do, people start talking favorably again about China. And you got to believe, and we’ve talked to a lot of people, health care is still number 1 is a priority for China. It looks great. You’re in the middle of Shanghai. You don’t have to go too far outside the city and you start seeing why the government is still concerned about health care.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Catherine Schulte with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Thomas Peterson: Yeah, hi everyone. This is Tom on for Catherine. Wanted to maybe dig into Europe a little bit. Obviously, had a really strong quarter from an organic growth standpoint. I understand that there are some comp dynamics within that number, but kind of flag the region as perhaps a leading indicator of some of the softness. So curious to the kind of what were the drivers here? And if you have anything to flag from a leading indicator standpoint within Europe?

Charles Kummeth: Sure. Well, first, as you mentioned, the comps were quite easy. So that helped a lot. But 15% organic growth is 15% organic growth. It’s a great quarter to have that. We’re not talking about a negative Europe right now. So we’re 2 or three quarters into a real recovery for us in Europe. That’s also part of the story. We have a new management team in place. They have done some reorganization a couple of quarters ago. And quite frankly, it’s working. We’re getting more synergies. We’re getting more cross-selling. We’re nearly at full strength. We’ve invested more salespeople as an example, in the Nordic regions. The new leader is German. Germany should be our biggest subsidiary in Europe and if not, and be correcting that.

There’s already been great evidence that we’re going to have a strong future, I think, in Germany with him at the helm. And I guess wait and see. But I’m — right now, I’m not focused too much on Europe for a change. Things are going pretty well.

Thomas Peterson: Great. That’s helpful. And then clearly, we talked about a number of headwinds throughout the space that are popping up throughout your reports. But with that in mind, I was wondering if you had any comments on sort of your thoughts around the M&A landscape? I mean what does the funnel look like here? Is there any more willingness among private maybe enter those conversations kind of given where we are from a macro perspective?

Charles Kummeth: Yeah. Well, it’s — we’ve never been busier to be honest. It’s — I said all year, it’s going to be a great year in M&A, we’ve landed Lunaphore. I just came back from Aldo where I’m on the Board, and I never received more confidence about a deal in my entire tenure here is this Lunaphore deal. It seems like everybody wanted to. So it’s going to be a marvelous platform and it has lots of applications and did we mention the growth year-on-year, 170%. This thing is it’s exploding. It’s going to be a wonderful asset and Kim personally close that deal. We’ve been involved in others. I mean we just saw Link. We were there. We know a lot about Olink. We sell them a lot of products. And they’re a good partner, and we look forward to continuing our partnership on many fronts with Thermo Fisher with Olink as well.

So it’s been a great relationship with Thermo and we don’t see any problems there, but we’d sure like to pick up a few more assets like that. There are lots of them out there. You mentioned private. This is definitely the year to be looking at smaller deals, private deals, deals in the core even that funding is tight, and we’re seeing multiples kind of picking up. The price takes these latest deals have been pretty good, and that gives hope for owners and they pick up the phone. So I’m still expecting a pretty good coming year here for M&A. We have lots of purchasing power for our size, and we’ll try to use it and I mean I’ll be gone soon, but I’m sure Jim and Kim and the team here will continue the mission on that.

Operator: [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Matt Larew with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Matthew Larew: Chuck, something you — as Jim called it out in his comments was the headwind around biotech funding. And I think you said that hurt especially in the last couple of weeks of the quarter. And so given that Bio-Techne has been under pressure for some time. Just curious if there was anything that you picked up on in the last couple of weeks or I’ve noticed a sense on that front?

James Hippel: Yes. I mean, we’ve been saying how biotech was relatively stable for us after its initial kind of drop in the first part of fiscal year ’23. And stabilization was pretty consistent up until like I said the last couple of weeks. We saw the run rates drop off. We saw some larger deals not close, and that kind of continued here in October. I don’t have a good answer as to why that’s the case, except to say that all of our peers are pretty much saying the same thing. So it appears like as we get into the year-end here, there’s another round of belt tightening going on across biopharma, especially in biotech. There’s some optimism that it’s an end of the year belt piping exercise and once we get into calendar year ’24, but new budgets get approved at the business level that we’ll start to see the pickup in activity. But again, we’re a little bit too early to tell at this point.